Thanks yes i followed this before yesterday but this is were the link takes you not where it is displayed, at least i thought so.

However in this file there is this to set the breadcrumb value startng at line 112

            $bcItems = array(
                array(
                    'href' => OW::getRouter()->urlForRoute('group-default', array('groupId' => $forumGroup->getId())),
                    'label' => OW::getLanguage()->text($forumSection->entity, 'view_all_topics')
                )
            );

            $breadCrumbCmp = new BASE_CMP_Breadcrumb($bcItems);
            $this->addComponent('breadcrumb', $breadCrumbCmp);

But there has to be an html file that is assocatiated with this and i have not found that side of this as of yet.  The above might be the view all part of that button makeup.

Thanks Daisy, ill take a look at that also.  Yours looks dif than mine in text.   With every plugin comes a little menu on the bottom that says  Start new (or Add new or Create new) and  View all   Its in the groups, its in the plugin widgets that are on the main page.   The similar is used i believe site wide so it has to be a standard class or function, its used in the photo widget, groups widget, video widget, and others.  

Here is how i get to mine,  i click on groups, select a group, and its on the bottom of that page under the topic listings right hand corner.   Start new  View all

UPDATE:

I think i found it Daisy, at least the widget part of it..  You sparked something inside me and so i took a look at the groups_widget php file in ow_plugins/groups/components  and inside the static function getToolbar() i found this section. 

        if ( $canCreate )
        {
            $toolbars['latest'][] = array(
                'href' => OW::getRouter()->urlForRoute('groups-create'),
                'label' => $lang->text('groups', 'add_new')
            );
        }

        $toolbars['latest'][] = array(
            'href' => OW::getRouter()->urlForRoute('groups-latest'),
            'label' => $lang->text('base', 'view_all')
        );

        $toolbars['popular'] = array();

        if ( $canCreate )
        {
            $toolbars['popular'][] = array(
                'href' => OW::getRouter()->urlForRoute('groups-create'),
                'label' => $lang->text('groups', 'add_new')
            );
        }

        $toolbars['popular'][] = array(
            'href' => OW::getRouter()->urlForRoute('groups-most-popular'),
            'label' => $lang->text('base', 'view_all')
        );

im sure thats it... Now i just need to see if i can find the groups page side of this rather than the widget. Because the only files that call that function are groups widget, photo widget, video widget, an blog php.  So i seems there may be a diff function call for the groups page.  

Thanks Daisy, your awesome !!!     

Yeah the more i looked at it last week the more it looked as it if was specifically parsed to build the botton of the page only as a whole.  I had a gut feeling i would either have to add my own function with the code or add it directly to the template file.

I really appreciate the help on this.. :)

OK for anyone interested here is the change i did and it does seem to work. 

My original code grabbed the topic id and then added 1 to it for the add, but thank goodness there was a var set up for the addurl carried over from the php file so i just used that instead. 

But there was not one (var) for the viewall so i had to run thru the array one time to get the group id for the view all. 

So here is the code...   Daisy or anyone, if you see something i missed please reply. 

Remember i use the macabre theme..

open up   ow_plugins/forum/views/components/latest_topics_widget.html

first you will need to add some css to the top part of the file

SO AFTER THIS

.ow_forum_attachment_icon {
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    cursor: pointer;
    display: inline-block;
    height: 17px;
    width: 14px;
}

ADD THIS

/* added for the new button above the topics */

.my_topbtnstyle {
       padding: 2px 7px;
      margin-top: 5px;
      font-size: 11px;
      float: right;
      white-space: nowrap;
      border-radius: 5px;
      -moz-border-radius: 5px;
      -webkit-border-radius: 5px;
       background-color: #252424;
       text-shadow: none;
       display: inline-block;
       color: #66ffff;   /* this is the same color as your remark text setting in admin theme setting */
}

NOW SAVE THE FILE FOR THIS STEP

OPEN THE FILE AGAIN

AFTER THIS

<div class="ow_forum_entity_forum clearfix ow_smallmargin">

ADD THIS

<!-- added this for top button -->
{if $topicList} 
         <!-- you just need the group id from the first result -->
        {foreach from=$topicList item=topvalue}        
         {$topgroupid = $topvalue.groupId}
          <!-- you got what you need so stop the foreach -->
          {break}
        {/foreach}

  {if $canAdd}
  <!-- set up the links -->       
  <span class="my_topbtnstyle">
  <!-- make sure you keep the blank spaces around the 8226 bullet symbol, they do parse -->
  <a href="{$addTopicUrl}">Start new</a> &#8226; <a href="{$site_url}/forum/{$topgroupid}">View all</a>

</span>
  <br />
  <br />
  {/if}

{/if}

<!-- end of add for top button -->

SAVE THE FILE

YOUR DONE !!!  :)  

now when you click on groups, then a group name, you should see a new menu above the topics listed, so that users do not have to go all the way to the bottom to use that menu.  If there are no postings the new menu will not show so there will be no errors or bad links.  The default core menu will be the only menu which is all you need on the bottom.

happy coding..

Daisy i will also send you a pm on this, i made a mistake and left out a close </a> after View All

It should be like this

<!-- set up the links -->       
  <span class="my_topbtnstyle">
<!-- make sure you keep the blank spaces around the 8226 bullet symbol, they do parse -->
  <a href="{$addTopicUrl}">Start new</a> &#8226; <a href="{$site_url}/forum/{$topgroupid}">View all </a>

  </span>

Right after the View all i forgot to close the anchor, I just discovered this error sorry... but works now just fine.  

thanks..