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dave Feb 18 '14

This is not meant to pick on developers but most any time there are standards, even minimum standards it is beneficial to all. Better quality means more sales and standards equate to time savings which is money in your pocket.

So i strongly feel that a great goal for Oxwall and developers alike is to be able to achieve something like this in the years to come. And to have the staff to enforce it.

http://make.wordpress.org/core/handbook/coding-standards/

Understanding that even this is not a perfect system, but IMO WP has set many standards for others to follow and they have set the bar pretty high.

I don't expect we will achieve all of this in the next few years, but maybe in 10 years or less. And any improvement is an improvement in the right direction. :)

The Forum post is edited by dave Feb 18 '14

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Den Feb 19 '14

Hey dave,

This is something we have already started to archive here http://docs.oxwall.org/dev:core:coding-standards. And here, in Oxwall team, we are following the rules in code. So everybody who contributes Oxwall is welcome to follow us and propose to define extended code standards or provide community with more best practices :)

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dave Feb 19 '14

thanks Den :)

tammy harris Feb 25 '14

Quote from Den Hey dave,

This is something we have already started to archive here http://docs.oxwall.org/dev:core:coding-standards. And here, in Oxwall team, we are following the rules in code. So everybody who contributes Oxwall is welcome to follow us and propose to define extended code standards or provide community with more best practices :)

having coding standards is great
i had a look at the coding standards and well what you have is a great start

oxwall script and default plugins break a lot of coding standards

like mysite.com and mysite.com/index are the same page a big no no

and both have an empty h1 title

and lots of very simple things that would take no time at all to fix
ie all images must have a alt tag website button images need alt tags, uploaded photos need alt tags that are set by default in no description is inputted

by google webmaster guidlines all website must be able to be read by screen readers for blind people and google is very anal about that one

googles html and ccs guidlines
http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/...unk/htmlcssguide.xml

i have found some plugins have very good code and some well just fail so dam bad its not funny

some plugins break every rule in every site coding standards and even though the plugin might be something you really want on your site you are way better off not even using it

if you can run your site through this test and come up in the top 5% of sites tested your site will do good in every search engine

if oxwall could set it sights at obtaining a top 10% for base script and all 3rd party plugins by 5 years and top 5% in ten would be great

even at top 10% would make oxwall rock and be the best dam script around

this tests just about every standard and tells you where and what the problem is and even how to fix it

i have fixed so many simple problem in the script but the ones needing stuff in php is beyond me

bottom right of this websire put ur site url in
http://www.powermapper.com/

on the report page will tell you in % how many pages are stuffed up
the basic test will only do the first 10 pages so if you want to test a certain page you will have to use a test site and disable every page but the plugin you want to test

near the test 5 is view report and in that is all the info on where and what is bad

tammy harris Feb 25 '14

now if you think it does not matter that much do your self a favor and download a free keyword rank tracker
this site has a great free rank tracker programe
http://www.link-assistant.com/
put your website and the key works you want to rake for and it will tell you exactly where your site shows up in every search engine

if you have just done some site changes wait a week or so till your site flat lines in the rankings

and then do some of the fixes that powermapper show you to

then just see how much your site starts going up in the ranking
if your site sells mans shoes and your site is say ranked no 10 in google search for mans shoes ie that no ten from the top which is ok but not good for you, you needs to be in the top 5 to be on the front page for search mans shoes

the more problem you fix the higher your site will be indexed

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dave Feb 25 '14

one big problem is that google does not care about W3C validation. As long as it parses thats all they care about.

The Forum post is edited by dave Feb 25 '14

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Den Feb 25 '14

Tammy,

Looks like you muss up the two ideas. First one, which is discussed in this topic, is to define code development standards. The set of rules in code constructions which developers should follow to make their code more affordable for reading and understanding by others.

The second one, is following HTML standards, like W3C and etc to fix errors reported by different html validation tests. Please, create a separate topic to discuss this with the community.

Thanks.

tammy harris Apr 19 '14

Quote from dave one big problem is that google does not care about W3C validation. As long as it parses thats all they care about.

dave i dont know where or how you came to that conclusion

google and bing index websites that comply to w3c standards higher

please read these

http://www.hobo-web.co.uk/...fers-valid-html-css/

http://www.searchenginejournal.com/...h-and-reality/18566/
that says
Now this isn’t about disrespect to people who believe that strict W3C compliance is important. Let’s face it – while most of us in the SEO industry know that we can make use of image alternate attributes, personally, I make sure I’m very careful in clarifying to clients that making use of them is first and foremost an issue of providing content to visually impaired people that helps them understand the purpose of an image they may not see. With that caveat in place, I then go on to communicate how this is an opportunity for SEO because the search engines interpret images on a page to be one indicator as to the purpose of that page.

http:///...-better-search-.html

One way to improve your Web site’s search engine results is to validate your code. Validating code means making your Web site W3C compliant. The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) is an international consortium where member organizations, a full-time staff, and the public work together to develop Web standards. Their mission statement is "to lead the World Wide Web to its full potential by developing protocols and guidelines that ensure long-term growth for the Web."

http://www.atw-web-marketing.co.uk/website-accessibility.html

Making code screen reader friendly

Screen Reading software “reads” a web page and then provides a live synthesized audio equivalent or brail output for partially sighted and blind users. (As discussed later dyslexic visitors will often also screen readers.)

There are an infinite number of ways that a web design can be realised with html and css coding, but not all approaches are skilled and not all are helpful for users who employ a screen reader for example:

Why follow the W3C standardshttp://www.jondev.net/articles/Why_follow_the_W3C_standards

tammy harris Apr 19 '14

dave i have tested this several times by making 2 pages with exact content

one low w3c standards one high

and put both links in my footer so google could index them

the first test pages was on muscle cars yeah really lol
i just copied and pasted lots of stuff
the high w3c got indexed at 68 on search muscle cars pretty good for a page with only one link to it with a bit more work easy to get it much higher
the second page with the same content but low w3c standards was out of the first 100 on search muscle cars

and i done same on 5 different subjects

and every time the w3c compliant page ranked way higher
google mite say w3c does not matter on ranking but it dam well does

one page i left alone for 3 months and raked the same the whole time 76
then i fixed it so screen readers could read the page and it instantly jumped to 42
on next google crawl of the page

Dimitris May 31 '14

i had the problem with this empty <h1> tag when i checked my site in http://www.seositecheckup.com
i figured out how delete this <h1> in general.html but i would like to know

what data does {$heading} is supposed to display and is null???

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tammy harris May 31 '14

you need the h1 titles and the {$heading} give at each page h1 titles
example if u on blogs page the h1 title would be blogs forum page h1 forums which are editable in language but for some reason the h1 title on index is blank

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