ben, nope didnt update just moved it is all... im thinking maybe it wont run on 5.4 does anyone have it on php 5.4

tammy wow i never new that, thanks yep i will.. 

if i cant get it soon, im gonna send them my info and have them look. 

http://www.oxwall.org/forum/topic/4900

Thanks Daisy, 

Yeah i got it up and running it was the pdo and mbstring that i forgot to install so i added them and rebuilt apache and it came right up.   Now its just a matter over the next week to get all the server warning tweaks done, this morning i had messages of resource usages of the cron running at over 200MB, it was 299 and 305 mb so i was alittle off on my settings. 

One thing Daisy that i will say, loading the PDO and the mbstring was a stroke of luck that solved the problem, i got no error message that said so, nothing at all to indicate what it was.  I was totally flying blind, and the only reason that i got the PDO idea was because my WHMCS host billing software posted a message that i needed to have mbstring installed.  So while i was going down the list of features to add to apache i ran across PDO feature and i thought "mmmmmm i wonder"  and thats when i posted the message asking about PDO, then i found the requirements and luckily that was it. 

I know that you have the requirements page and that should keep some of this from happening but it sure would be nice if one day Oxwalls error reporting would include the items in the reqirements page in full.  That would have saved me a ton of time if i would have received something that said PDO and mbstring were not found ya know.  :)  I feel if its a requirement it needs to have some kind of error reporting attached to it.

It will take about a week for everything to settle into the comfort zone with some tweeks here and there but looking good for now.   I am so glad to finally get these sites on a VPS, i am going to test some vid uploads in the next couple of days to see how much that has improved. 

My shared server was doing about 3MB per min and i dont expect an improvement because its more about ISP upload speed than it is server, but maybe with the VPS i can squeeze a bit more out of it, even 5MB a min would be a huge improvement and members will be very happy with that for awhile im sure.

Thanks everyone for the replies.  ;)