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D Colton
D Colton Jan 19 '15
I am between using Oxwall and Dolphin.  My biggest concern with Oxwall is that it seems as if everything is dated. Most of the themes and plug-ins seem to be 3 or 4 years old.  Is it going to be hard to get support or find 3rd party developers.


Just to add...it also seems to find documentation as well.  The little documentation there is doesn't seem to be very user friendly. I am afraid that if I use Oxwall, I am going to hit a brick wall and have to pay someone a lot of money to get my vision into action.

The Forum post is edited by D Colton Jan 19 '15
ross Team
ross Jan 19 '15
Colton, most of the plugins and themes from 3rd party developers are up-to-date and compatible with the current version of Oxwall. 3rd party developer doing their best and reply as fast as possible to clients request and support questions.



The developers who are good with the Oxwall code can be found here: http://www.oxwall.org/market/specialists

Yes, we are aware there's a lack of detailed documentation, this is in our to-do list this year.However you can go through the forum and can get the answer almost to any question you have, starting from running Oxwall to modifying it. We have a great support team (who works Monday-Friday 10am-7pm GMT +6)and very active community (24/7)who can assist you.
D Colton
D Colton Jan 19 '15
Wow..okay.  The last question I had for that other program...it took 2 days.  And to participate in the forum, they want you to pay $5!  


Looks like I will give you guys a try...thanks for the quick response, Ross. 

Durlabh Ashok
Durlabh Ashok Jan 19 '15
Hello D Colton,

I know Oxwall from very early stage and its a great platform to start with, what you are asking is simply just a comparison between a paid and free Social Networking Platform.

I searched dolphin's site and found that you need at least $319 just to start the site, where as oxwall is free except for some of the plugins/Themes which are made by 3rd party developers. You can easily find good 3rd party developers here. If you buy a plugin from Oxwall store then, I think all developers provide some time for testing the plugins, so if the plugin doesn't fit your need you can refund it easily.

I Personally think documentation is easy to understand, and as ross said they will be improving it in very near future. 

We have a good support here at oxwall's Forum, who would love to help you out... :)



The Forum post is edited by Durlabh Ashok Jan 19 '15
D Colton
D Colton Jan 19 '15
I appreciate you, Durlabh.  I am sure I will be asking a lot of questions.  As for the documentation - probably easy to understand if you are a professional coder...for novices like me - I need a little more detail. 
D Colton
D Colton Jan 20 '15
Now I am thinking you have to be a programmer for any sort of customization or understanding.  Reading through the forum, maybe 5% of the questions are answered and the rest are ignored with an echo chamber of people continuing to ask the same questions without an answer. And if there is an answer, it isn't thorough at all.  


Is there some sort of paid support system where questions are promptly and patiently answered for non-programmers?  I like Oxwall, but, in the end, I will probably end up spending more money than a license with Dolphin...not to mention the loss of hours and hour looking for simple answers. 

ross Team
ross Jan 20 '15
if the request is related to the code modification then yes, you need to be a programmer or hire one.
You can take a look here:http://www.oxwall.org/services

D Colton
D Colton Jan 20 '15
Exactly...everything is code modification.  Free is actually an investment of thousands...not because you have to be a programmer, but because all of the documentation is muddled. I could figure out most of it if there was a starting point...a manual!
ross Team
ross Jan 20 '15
Unfortunately, Oxwall team does not provide custom code modifications to the community as we are small team for now.
We do provide solutions for some members requests in the custom code modification section.
However mainly we do not do that.

Also you can install Skeleton plugin: http://www.oxwall.org/store/item/695 it will help you to better understand the code structure
The Forum post is edited by ross Jan 20 '15
D Colton
D Colton Jan 20 '15
HOly cow....all I am asking is someone to point me in the right direction...ok Skeleton...how in the hell is that helping me???????
D Colton
D Colton Jan 20 '15
I just wasted a week.  Thanks.
Durlabh Ashok
Durlabh Ashok Jan 20 '15
Quote from D Colton HOly cow....all I am asking is someone to point me in the right direction...ok Skeleton...how in the hell is that helping me???????

I think Oxwall docs(https://docs.oxwall.org/) is sufficient for a oxwall starter, but as I earlier said, Oxwall does not provide premium support and I also think its where its lacking but never the less Oxwall is a good platform to start with but the choice is yours....
D Colton
D Colton Jan 20 '15

Quote from Durlabh Ashok
Quote from D Colton HOly cow....all I am asking is someone to point me in the right direction...ok Skeleton...how in the hell is that helping me???????

I think Oxwall docs(https://docs.oxwall.org/) is sufficient for a oxwall starter, but as I earlier said, Oxwall does not provide premium support and I also think its where its lacking but never the less Oxwall is a good platform to start with but the choice is yours....
Like I said...free isn't free.  You have to buy information from Oxwall or its allies to get simple questions answered.  In the end, you pay more for Oxwall than Dolphin or any premium service.  A poor decision on my part...set me back weeks.  I still have a question in the 'active' community that no one has bothered to even look at.
D Colton
D Colton Jan 21 '15
I'll tell you what, @Durlabh Ashok...I will pay you to set up my site, since you think it is to simple.  The price will not exceed the price of Dolphin and you have to provide a tutorial for the 2 or 3 unique plugins I need for custom pages.  Message me if you are interested with a price. I am sick of dealing with this nonsense.  Oxwall is far from what they advertise it to be.  Basic knowledge is not enough, you have to be an expert programmer with an expertise in Oxwall to create anything unique
ross Team
ross Jan 21 '15
Quote from D Colton
Quote from Durlabh Ashok
Quote from D Colton HOly cow....all I am asking is someone to point me in the right direction...ok Skeleton...how in the hell is that helping me???????

I think Oxwall docs(https://docs.oxwall.org/) is sufficient for a oxwall starter, but as I earlier said, Oxwall does not provide premium support and I also think its where its lacking but never the less Oxwall is a good platform to start with but the choice is yours....
Like I said...free isn't free.  You have to buy information from Oxwall or its allies to get simple questions answered.  In the end, you pay more for Oxwall than Dolphin or any premium service.  A poor decision on my part...set me back weeks.  I still have a question in the 'active' community that no one has bothered to even look at.

I already told you we do not provide assistance on custom code modification, you either need to hire a programmer: 
http://www.oxwall.org/market/specialists or do that on your own. 

I don't think Dolphin allows you to create something unique without knowing anything about programming either. 

I don't know what you imply by basic knowledge however, but here, community members who know more or less  how to program, create plugins even with the current documentation. 

The skeleton plugin provides you info on the code structure,which is useful for programmers who are not familiar with the code and how to deal with it. 


I don't understand what else do you need, I gave you all the links you asked for, paid support, docs section. What right direction are asking for?

Durlabh Ashok
Durlabh Ashok Jan 21 '15
Quote from ross
Quote from D Colton
Quote from Durlabh Ashok
Quote from D Colton HOly cow....all I am asking is someone to point me in the right direction...ok Skeleton...how in the hell is that helping me???????

I think Oxwall docs(https://docs.oxwall.org/) is sufficient for a oxwall starter, but as I earlier said, Oxwall does not provide premium support and I also think its where its lacking but never the less Oxwall is a good platform to start with but the choice is yours....
Like I said...free isn't free.  You have to buy information from Oxwall or its allies to get simple questions answered.  In the end, you pay more for Oxwall than Dolphin or any premium service.  A poor decision on my part...set me back weeks.  I still have a question in the 'active' community that no one has bothered to even look at.

I already told you we do not provide assistance on custom code modification, you either need to hire a programmer: 
http://www.oxwall.org/market/specialists or do that on your own. 

I don't think Dolphin allows you to create something unique without knowing anything about programming either. 

I don't know what you imply by basic knowledge however, but here, community members who know more or less  how to program, create plugins even with the current documentation. 

The skeleton plugin provides you info on the code structure,which is useful for programmers who are not familiar with the code and how to deal with it. 


I don't understand what else do you need, I gave you all the links you asked for, paid support, docs section. What right direction are asking for?


+1 Ross
Durlabh Ashok
Durlabh Ashok Jan 21 '15
Quote from D Colton I'll tell you what, @Durlabh Ashok...I will pay you to set up my site, since you think it is to simple.  The price will not exceed the price of Dolphin and you have to provide a tutorial for the 2 or 3 unique plugins I need for custom pages.  Message me if you are interested with a price. I am sick of dealing with this nonsense.  Oxwall is far from what they advertise it to be.  Basic knowledge is not enough, you have to be an expert programmer with an expertise in Oxwall to create anything unique

First of all I am not a developer, I am just a student who one day came across Oxwall and found Oxwall leading from all others when it comes to open source and I don't know how to make plugins and themes, I know Oxwall for more than 2 years and I help others on my Experience basis...

You can easily get 3 to 4 plugins custom made just for you by oxwall developers(3rd Party) in less than $100...

The Forum post is edited by Durlabh Ashok Jan 21 '15
D Colton
D Colton Jan 21 '15

Quote from Durlabh Ashok
Quote from D Colton I'll tell you what, @Durlabh Ashok...I will pay you to set up my site, since you think it is to simple.  The price will not exceed the price of Dolphin and you have to provide a tutorial for the 2 or 3 unique plugins I need for custom pages.  Message me if you are interested with a price. I am sick of dealing with this nonsense.  Oxwall is far from what they advertise it to be.  Basic knowledge is not enough, you have to be an expert programmer with an expertise in Oxwall to create anything unique

First of all I am not a developer, I am just a student who one day came across Oxwall and found Oxwall leading from all others when it comes to open source and I don't know how to make plugins and themes, I know Oxwall for more than 2 years and I help others on my Experience basis...

You can easily get 3 to 4 plugins custom made just for you by oxwall developers(3rd Party) in less than $100...

Doubtful...I have a question still pending in the custom modification forum...not one response. 
Durlabh Ashok
Durlabh Ashok Jan 21 '15
D Colton,

I have seen your question( http://www.oxwall.org/forum/topic/31696 ).What you have asked require code modification on large scale, its isn't a task of few minutes. You can contact any plugin developer and ask them to make you a plugin, I think they will happily assist you in exchange of some fees...

And also please read these:

 http://www.oxwall.org/forum/topic/6082

 http://www.oxwall.org/forum/topic/5090

The Forum post is edited by Durlabh Ashok Jan 21 '15
Sean
Sean Jan 22 '15
Yeah sometimes getting a useful answer on here is a right pain in the ****, but once you understand the structure of the code and how it all works is SO EASY to create you own plugin if you know PHP to a reasonable level.


I myself have created over 20 plugins for my site alone. 

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