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big seo problems - Oxwall Art Advanced SEO | Forum

tammy harris
tammy harris Jan 26 '16
theres 2 huge seo problems that this plugin fails to address 

1  put alt tags on all images 


2  running a oxwall site on ssl
shows broken links and images on posting urls anywhere 
Sardar
Sardar Jan 26 '16
Hi Tammy,


"1  put alt tags on all images " - you mean SEO plugin should add empty alt attribute to all img tags?


"shows broken links and images on posting urls anywhere " - sorry, I didn't get how the plugin can do. Can you please provide more details?

tammy harris
tammy harris Jan 26 '16
yes no alt tags on images is hugs seo problem 

a ssl enabled site https
try and post  http  link in newsfeeds chat or anywhere 
the link and the image are broken 
very bad for seo 

any news on fixing the og and twitter image problems

 

The Forum post is edited by tammy harris Jan 26 '16
Sardar
Sardar Jan 26 '16
"yes no alt tags on images is hugs seo problem" - will be in the next update

"a ssl enabled site https
try and post  http  link in newsfeeds 
the link and the image are broken 
very bad for seo" - I'm sure it's not connected with seo plugin at all, try to deactivate the plugin and check if it works

"any news on fixing the og and twitter image problems" - it's in roadmap, but currently I can't guarantee it will be in the next update

tammy harris
tammy harris Jan 26 '16
"yes no alt tags on images is hugs seo problem" - will be in the next update

awesome

"a ssl enabled site https
try and post  http  link in newsfeeds 
the link and the image are broken 
very bad for seo" - I'm sure it's not connected with seo plugin at all, try to deactivate the plugin and check if it works


its not connected to or caused by seo plugin
its a oxwall core stuff up that they made way back in 1.6 
its very bad for seo to have broken links and broken images everywhere

you can test it on my ssl site
https://www.theopenretreat.com/

try and post http://www.oxwall.org/
into any newsfeed or comment area or even chat 

"any news on fixing the og and twitter image problems" - it's in roadmap, but currently I can't guarantee it will be in the next update

double awesome

tammy harris
tammy harris Jan 26 '16
and please fix the site map to scan whole site not just few things 

theres plenty of free scripts that scan the whole site 
tammy harris
tammy harris Jan 26 '16
"1  put alt tags on all images " - you mean SEO plugin should add empty alt attribute to all img tags?

not empty tags lol there needs be something in them 
if the user does not put a description on a image it has no alt tags 
just simple usernames photo

same for newsfeed photos 

well every photos every dam image on oxwall sites have no alt tags and is very bad for seo 

its one of google pet hates no alt tags
as blind people with screen reader get lost with no alt tags on images 
and google hates it and penalises you so bad for have images with no alt tags


google webmaster guidelines from 15 years ago

every other script for anything in the known universe abides by the rules 

but not oxwall lol

theres heaps more bad seo thats against webmaster guidelines from
15 years ago let alone current ones 
but that the biggest problem 

The Forum post is edited by tammy harris Jan 26 '16
Sardar
Sardar Jan 26 '16

"its not connected to or caused by seo plugin

its a oxwall core stuff up that they made way back in 1.6 
its very bad for seo to have broken links and broken images everywhere
you can test it on my ssl site
https://www.theopenretreat.com/
try and post http://www.oxwall.org/
into any newsfeed or comment area or even chat 

" - if it's not connected with seo plugin and causes big problems for sites with ssl I'll force it to be fixed in the next Oxwall platform update.


"and please fix the site map to scan whole site not just few things

theres plenty of free scripts that scan the whole site" - the script supports only Oxwall platform and official plugins from Oxwall, I also added several third party items. If you need some other plugin support please let me know, I'll try to add them. The plugin had dynamic crawler script in the plugin up to version 1.4, but it was very inefficient solution (had multiple issues on shared hostings due to very high resource utilization). You should keep in mind that plugins are developed not only for your site, developers have to compromise in order to satisfy many limitations.  


"not empty tags lol there needs be something in them 

if the user does not put a description on a image it has no alt tags 
just simple usernames photo
same for newsfeed photos 
well every photos every dam image on oxwall sites have no alt tags and is very bad for seo 
its one of google pet hates no alt tags
as blind people with screen reader get lost with no alt tags on images 
and google hates it and penalises you so bad for have images with no alt tags

google webmaster guidelines from 15 years ago

every other script for anything in the known universe abides by the rules " - I understand the problem, but how you offer to solve it. It's impossible for seo plugin to generate adequate alt description for all images on the site. It should be done by all plugin developers. If you have any ideas or strategy how to implement it please contact me, I promise to consider it.


I see you are very concerned about that issues, but I can't resolve all of them in my plugin. You should report them in appropriate forum topics.


Thanks

Dominick
Dominick Jan 26 '16
I got similar issues as soon as I installed my SEO plugin
Sardar
Sardar Jan 26 '16
Hi Dominick,


Could you please be more specific - we discussed here many issues concerning SEO plugin and Oxwall platform in general. What issues you are facing at your site?

tammy harris
tammy harris Jan 26 '16
site maps 

developers have to compromise in order to satisfy many limitations
true but when the limitations make the plugins useless then the dev has to say sorry to the 

people on shared hosting and that they can not compromise the working of a plugin or make the plugin go against webmasters guild lines 

a developer should never compromise there script or there reputation
to satisfy anyone that want something to work against there  
reputation or any webmaster guidelines 

 


a simple solution

site maps have a button in admin 


share hosting      or dedicated/vps  hosting
shared the plugin runs as it is  


 dedicated/vps  it uses a proper full site sitemap generator
that should be run on its own cron
as the oxwall cron is so bloated its almost does not work
 




alt tags yes some the dev of plugins i have contacted are fixing the alt tags in there plugins
some are not but that not ur concern or anything to do with seo plugin

but the seo plugin should fix all the default oxwall and oxwall plugins 
that do not have any alt tags on images 

i understand it takes time 
even if you just do one oxwall default plugin per update 

one update fix alt tags in  photos plugin
next update fix alt tags in newsfeed
next update fix alt tags on core images 



The Forum post is edited by tammy harris Jan 26 '16
tammy harris
tammy harris Jan 26 '16

"its not connected to or caused by seo plugin

its a oxwall core stuff up that they made way back in 1.6 
its very bad for seo to have broken links and broken images everywhere
you can test it on my ssl site
https://www.theopenretreat.com/
try and post http://www.oxwall.org/
into any newsfeed or comment area or even chat 

" - if it's not connected with seo plugin and causes big problems for sites with ssl I'll force it to be fixed in the next Oxwall platform update.


yes this is a huge seo problem as big as no alt tags
google hats broken links and broken images


The Forum post is edited by tammy harris Jan 26 '16
Sardar
Sardar Jan 26 '16
"i understand it takes time 
even if you just do one oxwall default plugin per update 
one update fix alt tags in  photos plugin
next update fix alt tags in newsfeed
next update fix alt tags on core images " - yes it takes time, but you didn't get the main problem - it's very complicated to interfere and maintain the source of other plugins (including platform). You should understand that I can't fix it right in the code of photos, newsfeed, etc. 

Let's check the source of your first page - https://www.theopenretreat.com/


We can see several img tags without alt attribute:

<img id="bgimg" src="https://www.theopenretreat.com/..._2015/background.jpg"/>


<img src="https://www.theopenretreat.com/...ault_2015/logo_u.jpg"class="ow_left" style="max-height:45px;margin-left:25px;"/>

I don't know which plugin adds them, and I should generate alt description for them. Where can I get that description, SEO plugin sees the same HTML code so how you offer to fix that problem?


Concerning sitemaps - the strategy I use for sitemap generation is the most optimal and I'm not going back to real crawler (it has very complicated code, which is very expensive to maintain). If you want me to add some pages, please send me your requests via PM.

If you are not satisfied with this solution I'm ready to implement it especially for you as a custom code modification. Please contact me via PM and we'll discuss the details.

The Forum post is edited by Sardar Jan 26 '16
tammy harris
tammy harris Jan 26 '16
the strategy I use for sitemap generation

is not a strategy at all unless your strategy is to have a script that against webamster guidelines 

in that case your 
strategy is to make scripts that do more harm then good

and if thats your 
strategy you should give up being a developer and start waiting tables 
JoshWho
JoshWho Jan 26 '16
I would be very impressed if this could correct alt image tags. I imagine all you would need to do is grab page description and fill in the blanks or have a spot in the admin panel where you can add your own default alt tags. 
Sardar
Sardar Jan 26 '16
Tammy

Yes, this is the strategy for sitemap generation I offer and you have a choice to use or give up using my script. I offered you the working solution - custom code modification or request to add pages/plugins, please contact me via PM for further details.


 JoshWho

No problem with that solution, I can easily implement both in the next update. I just wonder which one is better for SEO - description of the page or default one for whole site.

JoshWho
JoshWho Jan 26 '16
I would make it null if the page has a description and if it doesn't then use default text
Sardar
Sardar Jan 26 '16
OK, thank you for suggestion!
JoshWho
JoshWho Jan 26 '16
no problem
tammy harris
tammy harris Jan 26 '16
list of some plugins that need to be in site map

   webcames

    memphotos

    confesions

    video uploads

    games

    hangman

    waba

    friends inviter

    suport

    payed membership

    credits

    media inporter

    movies

    articals

    adsence

    followers

    gifts

    friends

    hot or not

    User popularity index

    Reminder Notifications

    RSS Feed for Site and Users

    Who Viewed Me

    Advanced Photo

    API and App Interface for Oxwall

    Abuse Report

    Classifieds

    Design Settings

    Doc

    Favorites

    Google Maps Location

    Image Puzzles

    Live streaming

    Most Rated Blogs

    MessagePlus

    MessageAll

    Management Pro for Members

    Mytags

    Oxwall Art FAQ

    Oxwall Credit Lotto

    PhotoGroup

    Shop Pro

    Suggested Friends

    Sponsors Wall

    Ultimate News

    User tags

    Users Quick Search

    Video Recorder

    Virtual Hearts

    Contact Pro

    Virool Integration

    Video Conference

    Fan Page

    Group Video Chat

    Member Awards

    My File Manager

    Pages 

    ADS Pro

    Multimedia Show Pro

    Music Extreme

    Gallery

    Family and Friends

    Notifications Wall

    File Uploads

    Files for Groups

    My Subscribed

    mobile site

    pages made in admin pages

    pages made in mobile admin

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