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Tim
Tim May 27 '16
Hello, i want show some more adult Pictures and by the german law i need a AVS (Adult Verify Checkup) the moste simple way ist Face by Face so let the User make a Picture with a Code oder his/her Username and send it to the Admin for activation.


This or a similar Plugin i need. Have anyone a Idea?


Cheers

dave Leader
dave May 27 '16
May i ask why you need a plugin for this?  I dont see a plugin offering any benefit here, it will not be able to take a snap shot of the user with their id.  You may be better off just have them email you the photo and approving them that way.  Just set up a admin email such as  photoverify@yoursite.com   and have them email the photo there. 


and you might want to take a look at this too before you jump into AVS


 http://www.metafilter.com/...potential-pedophiles



The best thing you can do to keep yourself out of trouble is to not have any pornographic pics open to the public, keep them behind the signin.  


Now are you talking about doing a plugin that will integrate a already established and respected Adult Verification process. Then that might be an idea. :)





The Forum post is edited by dave May 27 '16
Tim
Tim May 28 '16
Hello, yes sure your right. 
A Email like photo@... Is a way but...
I have a adult content on the website and don't want people's younger then 18 years and need ton save the side by law. 

My idea by this plugin is:
If person x is verified for adult I can push this person in a social membership or group and give special right like watch Galary or so and mark this profil by a sign for verified. 

I hope you understand what I mean?  The plugin is more for a group and right management by a special Flag for this user. I need check this person by myself. 

Skadate have this option and so I'm very wondering I can't find here anything. I know this is Oxwall but yes I can pay for a plugin.  

dave Leader
dave May 28 '16

Yes i do understand what you need, basically a plugin that offers another permission filter for age verification. 


Remember we don't support skadate here and don't offer support to skadata users, you must go thru skadate support for that. 


However, any law that i have seen basically says that the operator has to make a "responsible and viable effort"  to verify age.  So (i am not a lawyer and not giving legal advice here) but my thought is as long as you make a responsible and viable effort then you should be fine. 


There is no way to verify age of every viewer because someone could verify their age and then turn it over to a underage friend. 


You have your site TOS, they agree to that.  You have this new plugin that allows them passage if they are age verified (the best you can) and that really should be enough i think to keep you safe.  At some point we have to put the responsibility back on the user and not the site. 



The Forum post is edited by dave May 28 '16
Tim
Tim May 28 '16
Dear Dave,
Yes this kind of Plugin I'm looking for. I don't use
Skadate but see Demo they have this function. 
I use the newest Oxwall. 

No are wrong about the law in Germany. The German lay says the admin and owner of a webpage need to look
The site to make the Internet save. If anyone will use picture like a adult content they have to prove the age each visitor. For this we have in AVS German some kind of age verifie option like the passport or ID card number (you can calculate the age by a string but very easy to fake) the best option for me is to make a face 2 face verification. 

So I see this plugin we don't have in Skadate. My next question and maybe you can help because my English is to bad:

If I make a Verifocation like send a picture with your Nick to the email email adress of .... 

For this info the Oxwall Store have a notification Plugin. Or some this that's a Basic User give the Info he need to get verified before he can use the page full? Do you have a Oder how to info them?

dave Leader
dave May 28 '16
I will take a look at this in the next week and see if i can come up with something for you regarding a plugin of some kind. 
Tim
Tim May 29 '16
sounds great


i read in a german oxtail board, last year here was a plugin user foto verification? but this item is suspended?

Abbey
Abbey May 29 '16
Site labeling can be a help in keeping minors out, esp if parents have blocked adult websites... , we can do all we can but parents need to take some responsibility too.
Try safelabeling and rtalabel
Tim
Tim May 30 '16
Quote from Abbey Site labeling can be a help in keeping minors out, esp if parents have blocked adult websites... , we can do all we can but parents need to take some responsibility too.
Try safelabeling and rtalabel
We don't talk about to flag or mark a website of adult content. 
That's a private feature. I'm just care by law. 

The German and European law have big rules and to break them is stupid, expensive and can bring one to the jail. Not really clever. 
dave Leader
dave May 30 '16
I have a good friend of mine who is a develper for another company not oxwall,  and lives in that area. I can send him a message to see if he can provide me some details on the legal requirements and some development ideas.  


Tim if you have a link to any legal requirement sites let me know post them here please so i can look.  I just hope they can be translated into english so i can read them. 

Abbey
Abbey May 31 '16
It's not a "private feature" ... that's all I'm saying.
Tim
Tim May 31 '16
Quote from dave I have a good friend of mine who is a develper for another company not oxwall,  and lives in that area. I can send him a message to see if he can provide me some details on the legal requirements and some development ideas.  


Tim if you have a link to any legal requirement sites let me know post them here please so i can look.  I just hope they can be translated into english so i can read them. 

Hello, i have a lot of content but all in German language. So for translating difficult because it have a lot of kinds how to check the age and verifie a person. 

The easy way is the Way by Face2Face. Let the User register a Account. Then send him a info to use his Account in all options he need to verified his Account. 
Now we have 2 kinds to verifie:

1.) let the person make a picture and hold him a paper with his Nick in his hand and send this picture to a Email upload it. 

2.) let the people make a selfie and hold the ID Card or Passport close to his Face for this. Then send the picture by his Username or a random generated Number to the admin or upload it. 


Then we have some websites they make a Adult Check but they very expensive and I don't want any API to other private Websites. I think it's a high secure Risk. 

The last Option and this I never will use is to check the ID Card Number for Age only verification. For this can find a lot of scripts in the Internet. User need to send his ID Card or Passport Number and in Germany we can calculate the Birthdate of it. But in the Internet a lot of Generators can found. 

So best and safety's way I think to make my website legal is by fave2face with a picture upload and a random Code or Username. This is accepted by Law and every user can do it with in a very short time and by a small action.  
dave Leader
dave May 31 '16
Thanks for the additional information :)
Darryl B Leader
Darryl B May 31 '16
Just a thought. Would the "Mandatory User Approve"  feature in admin / settings/ user settings help with some of this. The admin has to approve all users before they can use the site. The particular "verified photo" would need to be a requirement so the admin can see it before approving the user.
dave Leader
dave May 31 '16
Yeah thats good info DB thanks :)
dave Leader
dave May 31 '16
I just heard from my friend over there and he said that there is news of a change coming with regards to current rules.  He also said that they all may be independent of each other with regards to rules.  


He did provide some links to some discussions however i have not read them yet, but it might be wise to wait to see what the new laws entail and who it affects. 

Tim
Tim Jun 1 '16
Quote from dave I just heard from my friend over there and he said that there is news of a change coming with regards to current rules.  He also said that they all may be independent of each other with regards to rules.  


He did provide some links to some discussions however i have not read them yet, but it might be wise to wait to see what the new laws entail and who it affects. 

This rule is very old. Let him contact me if he like. 
That's the law to proteced kids and teenager! 
dave Leader
dave Jun 1 '16
Thanks 
Sypa CC (Creative Fertile)
We have a customer who has also an adult community website. We added "User photo verification" plugin and changed the rules of verification in language files. Every user who wants to become verified has:
- to click for verification,
- adds the number  from the verification email into his selfie
(holding a piece of paper with the number near to his face),
- and send it back in 10 minutes.
You can add the rule to make a selfie holding the number and/or ID card.

But the "User photo verification" plugin is out of store. It still supports oxwall 1.8.3. Oxwall team, isn't it possible that Tim gets the plugin?
dave Leader
dave Jun 1 '16
You will have to ask ross on that one, that would be a really good solution if he could get ahold of that plugin. 
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