Thanks Chris but still broken here, and in canada too where my cust is.  I sent it to them but i should not have to.  Must be a dns server down or something, that would explain why ok in one place but not another. 

I wish they would toss some error control on that message process and give a message instead of the error.  Say something like, 

"This service is temporarily down for maintenance but will return shortly"  

But without a message it makes new customers think there is something fishy going on and makes it harder on everyone. 

Yeah ross will be in a few hours from now, he does not deal with the store but he can let those who do know about this. 

issue resolved :)