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Daniel smythe
Daniel smythe Apr 16 '15
never seen such a terrible software in all my years of forumming. usually i stay silent and never complain. you cant preview a post, you cant show full screen youtube video-only direct link..no way to instantly choose diffrent font colors-would need to embed yourself in ACP, no emotes.. etc..just great. please dont be offended, i like to speak my mind alot.
dave Leader
dave Apr 16 '15
Are you referring to the support forum or what?
Daniel smythe
Daniel smythe Apr 17 '15
iam referring to the software itself. not this forum, cheers
dave Leader
dave Apr 17 '15
Oh ok,  well ya know daniel it's not for everyone.  Every software has its positives and negatives and Oxwall is no different.  However with that said, Oxwall has a huge following and is well spoken of in many venue's.  We have a huge number of users worldwide and we provide a solution for them that they were not able to find anywhere else for the price, oh yeah and the price, you cant beat the price!  


Also it is open source so if you want to customize it to fit your needs you are welcome to do that.  Try doing that with a purchased $400+ social software on the market. You can't because they are typically encoded so you can't touch the code. 


I personally have been in the social business since 2005, i have used much of what is out there, ended up dumping a bunch of money into professional software that ended up to not meet my needs and i was never going to pay their highway robbery prices for custom code, especially when i am a programmer myself.   I bounced around from one software to another from Elgg to something else, and free this and paid that.  I had heard about Oxwall but to be honest i didn't like their dating software, had heard bad things about it which turned out to be wrong informaiton.  So one day i decided to give it a try and i never looked back. 


Does it do everything and have everything, no!  But it has enough of the stuff i needed in the core to work with.  It is open source so i can code if i want to, and its free.  The bottom line is that Oxwall has enough of the common features as its core to make what it does not have simply trivial.  And tons of world wide users must agree because they use it every day. 


I am not paid by Oxwall in any way to endorse it, i am a volunteer who helps out on the forum and i help people that i can help.  So if i can save you some heartache and some years of bouncing around i will, and that is why i think you should give this software an even shot.  I think if you have been around the software arena as i have you will find it has some very strong attributes.  


I hope that helps... :) 


dave

Arie
Arie Apr 17 '15
Daniel,

i am new to Oxwall but i have invested some time and learned how the software works.
Also there are a lot of cheap/free plugins / templates that can help you to create a nice site. If you want to have a site that has all the features you want and need then why don't you write and code it yourself. I dare you... i hope your wallet/pockets is/are deep enough and full with money!

if you tell the forum members here what you need then maybe they are willing to help and clear things for you.

good luck in search of creating a great site.




The Forum post is edited by Arie Apr 17 '15
Sean
Sean Apr 17 '15
Oxwall isn't a forum software, it's a social networking software with a simple forum plugin.


If you want something where 100% of the focus of development is the forum, then go for a forum software.


I don't think you understand the software that Oxwall is, it's not strictly a forum software.

Sean
Sean Apr 17 '15

Quote from Jacques van vuuren try phpfox from moxi9 all these plugins that you buy is all installed already...im looking at purchasing that as oxwall is basic and costs a fortune with plugins. not very customizable at all and plugins dont work very well. 20$ for cover photos ?? taking the piss big time
They're all made by 3rd parties.
dave Leader
dave Apr 17 '15
$20 is cheap, for the same plugin on other software you might pay 50 to 70 dollars or more. Be thankful that plugin developers don't really charge for their true time investment or you will be seeing prices in the $100 - 200 +  range for a simple plugin. 


True phpfox has some nice stuff in its core, but i think you'll find that it also has issues and that it is not cost effective over the long term.  But be my guest i used phpfox as well at one time and look were i am now.  Enjoy your venture and we will see you back here next year when you have had enough of phpfox.   It is your right to shop and compare so i shall not stand in your way. 


Sean
Sean Apr 17 '15

Quote from dave $20 is cheap, for the same plugin on other software you might pay 50 to 70 dollars or more. Be thankful that plugin developers don't really charge for their true time investment or you will be seeing prices in the $100 - 200 +  range for a simple plugin. 


True phpfox has some nice stuff in its core, but i think you'll find that it also has issues and that it is not cost effective over the long term.  But be my guest i used phpfox as well at one time and look were i am now.  Enjoy your venture and we will see you back here next year when you have had enough of phpfox.   It is your right to shop and compare so i shall not stand in your way. 


I can vouch for this. I've used several programs worth several hundred dollars and they just don't fit my requirements. They're not built to handle large scale communities, they're more designed for your local chruch and stuff.
Mark
Mark Apr 17 '15

Daniel, I don't think I understand your original post. When a YouTube video is in an Oxwall wall post you can view it full screen. From within the admin panel you can quickly change font colors. By using the savvy CSS editor you can change any element to your hearts content and those changes are saved even after core updates.


Your point on the emoticons is correct as these are not currently built into Oxwall. But in all fairness let's not forget that Facebook became the largest social network on this planet long before they ever implemented emoticons... read: http://mashable.com/2013/04/09/facebook-emoticons/


I would vigorously disagree with your position that Oxwall is terrible software. I have actively developed community sites to include discussion boards for nearly 19 years now. I've worked with most of the known names and my all time favorite discussion board is YaBB but I digress...


In my humble opinion Oxwall is stunningly brilliant on many counts and it just keeps getting better with every update. Bear in mind that Oxwall was never targeted to be a "discussion board" but rather a streaming community site and to some extent you might even consider it as a Facebook sorta clone like you might consider jCow an Twitter sorta clone.


If you dig deeper into Oxwall and note the clever PDO usage with prepared statements as well as a host of other well thought out (smarty cache) and superbly executed coding you have to give this platform a lot of respect for all of the hard work that has gone into this project. Just as examples take a look at ow_core/form_element.php  or ow_core/application.php by Sardar Madumarov.... and what you'll see is some very top notch coding :-)


If you've never committed your own time into an open-source platform such as this you may be unaware of the enormous time and effort that goes into these builds and how sometimes all the programmers here is complaining and unappreciative comments... which leads me to my last comment....


With all due respect :-) >>> Rather than drop in the developers form here making comments like "never seen such a terrible software in all my years".... it would be more constructive and beneficial if you could make suggestions on what you feel would make Oxwall better. Those suggestions can then be reviewed and could possibly be implemented into future updates. I would always encourage you to help Oxwall to become better and feel free to submit your suggestions over at http://oxwall.uservoice.com/forums/13756-ideas-for-oxwall


I would suggest you run Oxwall for a while and give it a good test run. I think the more you use it and become familiar with it the more it will grow on you :) Cheers!

Joey
Joey Apr 19 '15
On one side i agree with first post.

But on the other side, Oxwall is realy nice software. It gives you a social community package for free and it works very nice.


But,

Development could be better. They are far behind other social software.

Think about responsive, Oxwall is not responsive. (Only some pages). In this time, almost 60% of dutch people use here smartphone.

Also, there are no emoticons. Yes, you can by them. But why? Evry forum or social or chatpackage have emoticons.


This 2 reasons are THAT reasons i am not use oxwall anymore. Sad but true.

I choose for jomsocial. Its responsive, emoticons and the code is more optimized for faster loading pages.


I dont like to blame anyone from here, because i know these are good people who work very hard, and try to give a fantastic support. But if i was a developer, i realy should start to make everything responsive. They lose a lot of users now.