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Better Plugin Development Tutorial? | Forum

Judia Krakowski
Judia Krakowski Apr 21 '19
I'm looking to make a simple sortable list plugin for OxWall. You'll make entries on the admin dashboard, and then it will show up on a page on the site. Users can sort the table by any of the columns. I read through the crash course doc they have on the site. I was wondering if there was more tutorials out there. 
JB TECH
JB TECH Apr 21 '19

The plugin skeleton holds documentation and working examples - https://developers.oxwall.com/store/item/695


My colleague eobasi has some tutorials (more advanced stuff) - https://www.eobasi.com/category/coding/oxwall/


And you can always give JB Tech a try for custom development - http://jbtech.online/



-Jake

Judia Krakowski
Judia Krakowski Apr 21 '19
I read through the plugin skeleton, but it didn't really explain things efficiently for me. 
Patricia Zorrilla Leader
Patricia Zorrilla Apr 21 '19

I do not know if it's because of the Google translator or because you do not explain yourself well, Judia Krakowski.

Please explain better what this plugin should do, what it should show and with what intention.

I think that offering only the Skeleton plugin as information is very little and professional help is very expensive: Making a plugin is several days of work and for a single installation is nonsense.

I will help you for free as much as I can, but I need to know what you want to do.


Oxwall Germany Club
Oxwall Germany May 2 '19
Topic was moved from Custom Oxwall Projects.
JB TECH
JB TECH May 9 '19
As it currently stands, there's no efficient way for plugin development learning than trial and error, and skimming through already existing plugins and base functions.
AppXprt
AppXprt May 9 '19
JB Tech is completely right...
dave Leader
dave May 20 '19
Judia, i did make the attempt awhile back before oxwall left us all high and dry, i still have these if they will help 


Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpj1GQVYr6g


Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPHuVbvTT8g


I hope it helps.. 


Diana
Diana Nov 25 '19
Hello dave, thanks!

I have an issue, though. I am having trouble understanding what is even going on. I know it takes practice and dedication, I will try to do it right. 

dave Leader
dave Nov 25 '19
No problem, if you want to PM with your questions ill try to help iron out the confusion so it makes better sense to you.   Or you can post a new topic in this section so everyone can benefit from it :)
Ebenezer from Bluetide Webs
If anyone needs extra resources in addition to Dave's videos, you can check out this playlist I have put up specifically for this purpose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isazB0X9dnU&list=PL--mo-tJyjm_VJ8EVHtFOob2hBBldMczI


You can skip right to course 101 if you are already familiar with the basics of Oxwall. You can also download the plugin used in the video tutorial from Github: https://eobasi.github.io/owt_simpleplugin/

The Forum post is edited by Ebenezer from Bluetide Webs Jan 7 '20
AppXprt
AppXprt Jan 12 '20
Videos are great, but I would love a spreadsheet or some sort of doc or wiki with a reference to all core classes, methods and functions... Pretty sure we should be able to pull all this automatically and then just add the documentation for it...


Lets get some updates and commits going...

Ebenezer from Bluetide Webs
Thanks @AppXprt, it seems Oxwall moderation team deleted the other threads for some reasons. Perhaps we can have this conversations on a different platforms? Google Hangout/Forum?
dave Leader
dave Jan 12 '20
No Ebeneaer i removed my post because i agreed with you that any input needs to be in one place, i was afraid that the conversation would be split up too much and i wanted them to stay focused on your upgrade post.   Is that what your referring to? i hope they did not remove your upgrade post, thats just not right if they did.. 
Ebenezer from Bluetide Webs
Yes, Dave, the upgrade thread was removed. You can see for yourself https://developers.oxwall.com/forum/topic/66128
dave Leader
dave Jan 13 '20
WOW i have no clue why anyone would do that... that is just not right IMO   Yeah you might be better off discussing this outside the domain since it appears its not wanted here for some reason.  sad sad... 
The Forum post is edited by dave Jan 13 '20
Ebenezer from Bluetide Webs
Thanks @Chris_W


@AppXprt regarding your question about commits on the other thread, when I called for this collaboration, I had no intention of doing it alone. 2 weeks later, I got Patricia who offered to help with code documentation, the rest are people paying lip services and people trying to push one agenda or the other, with no one showing any real commitment to collaborate in the said project. So, I will admit that you are right that no developer will be willing to collaborate in a project like this. This is why I haven't made any commits on Github and probably why I wouldn't make anyone anytime soon.

dave Leader
dave Jan 15 '20
Ebenezer i am sorry to hear that lip service is what you are getting.  It seems to be the same ol thing every time.  I hope things change in that regard.  
dave Leader
dave Jan 15 '20

Either way one day i feel that the free version will no longer be, and will go dark.  As i have said before i believe that die was cast long ago for whatever reason which we dont know and can only speculate. So if you want to be prepared and be there for everyone when the chips fall and have something available for them to go to well then in the end you only have two choices:


1. Get your own domain and develope oxwall there keeping it legal and showing their attributes and anything else that is required by their license.  


2. Build something different from scratch with all the same features. 


Like it or not those are the choices.  Oxwall appears to have made it clear that they have no intention or need to update the free version and so to keep acting like you owe them something has already fallen on deaf ears it seems.   Think about it this way, it wont be long now that the script will not run out of the box on many servers due to everyone moving to php 7.1+,  when that happens and there is still no update from Oxwall then you know its time to start constructing a coffin.


I hope i am wrong in my summation but the evidence is sadly on my side so far.  So again if you want to do something then do it outside of this domain.  Other than that we all have to just let the chips fall where they may.  

The Forum post is edited by dave Jan 15 '20
Ebenezer from Bluetide Webs
Sadly, you are right, Dave. I can't help but notice that the download link to the software has been removed from https://www.oxwall.com/


It may seem that Skalfa has decided to discontinue Oxwall as a free software....pretty clear at the moment. It seems their major because puzzle at the moment is what to do with the store as the ability to extend Skadate with additional plugins/themes is one of the software's selling point.

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