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dave Leader
dave Jul 12 '16
I will say it one final time and then im going away to do other things more productive then doing the round and round with you.  Lashing out with other than facts to present, error message, or other diagnogstic data to present your case is not going to get you what you want.  There is a way to do things and if you are not going to follow that path then you can sit here and talk to yourself because that is all that will ever happen. 


Also if oxwall knows of the issue then it will get addressed in some upcoming version. They have addressed other issues before and they will address other issues again.  If the script is not acting as you want, if it is not performing as you want, if it is not up to your standards for how you use the script, you are welcome to either present your case or find another script that does make you happy.  


That is all i have to say on this... im done... 

The Forum post is edited by dave Jul 12 '16
Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
I showed you speed tests of how load times go up by over 6 x  with just adding some plugins 

And what is being done about that the same thats being done about amount of friends problem 


And thats nothing 

Let just throw that stone wall up and stick our heads in the sand n hope the prolems all fix them selfs 


If i was u dave and was try set a business up here and was told these problems i would swim crock infested waters and fight bushfires to try and not only find the reason but also some answrs 


Not throw the stone wall up

Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
Please dave tell me 5 problems that have ever been marked to be fixed in the last 4 years that have been fixed totaly or have not caused an extra 10 more problems
Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
Countless new members have shown me there fresh install on shared hosting no plugins 8 second page loads they then activate a handfull of plugins it then goes to a minute 

There last words are

This script is just a pile of rubbish and leave 

Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
Few days ago k got few messages from some great dev here 

Is sad to see you go and your right oxwall is just ribbish

I wish i never even started making plugins for this script 

Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
But still you and oxwall will just sit there and scratch your heads n wonder why everyone has left n why new ppl dont stay long and leave 

Why great dev just pack up and leave 

Senior Developer Leader
Senior Developer Jul 12 '16

Quote from Tammy Even sn has told you on his site one his members has 100 friends and can not use his site

Its time to put all the bs to the side n tear down the stone wall


I said that when login with that user with +100 friends, I need to clear some things (console and chatbar) to keep using the site (just added that information to help page so users keep using it without a problem). The site is not unusable, there is just some ajax bottleneck.


As dave said, if this script doesn't fit your needs, you are free to fly away.


I'm really happy with this script, +1900 users now.

Senior Developer Leader
Senior Developer Jul 12 '16
100 pages per minute according to G.Analytics.

1 VPS. Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 2.00GHz, 1 cores, 1 GB ram, 4 GB Swap

The Forum post is edited by Senior Developer Jul 12 '16
dave Leader
dave Jul 12 '16
SD is that with openvz ?
Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
Do you thing 100 friends would run on shared hosting 

Your set should hut the wall at around 150 friends and start turning users away 


Ooh n wait till you get to double of what you have n start see less and less activaty on your site due to no one getting site mail

Senior Developer Leader
Senior Developer Jul 12 '16

KVM Centos 7.


I don't know if it would run in shared hosting, I'm trying to do some business here, so I have got a cheap VPS.


The friends problem is ajax bottleneck, so there is a way to fix this, when the time comes, I will fix it.


The other problems I havent seen them yet, but maybe I will fix them when it happens in my website.

Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
Keep an eye on how long your crin takes to run 

If all your members are active you should be pushing 60 seconds soon n once it goes over it the cron will cancel it self out and stuff will stop work everwhere 

As no cron proces is locked 

Senior Developer Leader
Senior Developer Jul 12 '16
That's right, the cron overlapping problem needs to be fixed, I will fix it in my website when starts overlapping, thank you.
Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
quick lets get that stone wall back up and stick our heads in the sand it will go away
Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
and this astounds me you have to tell people to clear stuff so they can use your site
and you dont see that as a problem

I said that when login with that user with +100 friends, I need to clear some things (console and chatbar) to keep using the site (just added that information to help page so users keep using it without a problem). The site is not unusable, there is just some ajax bottleneck.

Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
i forgot these
people are asking to pay to get the problem fixed here
https://www.upwork.com/...~012e6a878de9d31443/

Den Team
Den Jul 12 '16
Tammy


As we mentioned in dozens of topics, the software and it's features have been enhanced and optimized gradually, step by step.  

We agreed upon newsfeed and photos plugins being the heaviest features of Oxwall. 

In cases, when your websites start to grow and attract more traffic, unconditionally, these features may and will cause additional load to the server that may and will cause the speed decrease.


At the same time, this can serve as a signal to you, that your server is not able to handle such load and you should consider using more powerful dedicated servers with greater capacities to process and handle this additional load.


Newsfeed is one of the most complicated and heaviest features in the software. We accept that. It's refactoring requires a lot of human and financial resources. We do our best to address all vital issues and requests from our members. However, again, we cannot drop all our duties and address only this problem.


Let me note again, that this is an open source software and Oxwall is still a small team. Besides if you get more traffic that means, you're doing great money wise, therefore you can hire some third-party developer to address this issue directly on your website, which you can share lately by contributing to our public oxwall repository.

Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
den newsfeed is only a small part of the loading problem on amount of friends mail and chat are the biggest problems
when you get to 200 friends you need one hell of a sever set up to handle it
and you can get users that have that amount of friends from just having 400 odd members
now at 400 members you can not in any way possible generate enough income from your site to pay for 10% of the server cost
now this is the exact opposite of how oxwall is marketed with finances and such in admin
paypall plugins and so on

at 200 friends chat and mail add 1/3 of the time to load the page

none of the problems in this post or any my posts on problems do i expect them to be fixed straight away

what i do expect is for there to be a forum on known problems so other can maybe come up with ideas or even fixes

right now theres a big wall between users and oxwall
this wall needs tearing down and everyone helping users oxwall and 3rd party dev

oxwall needs to ask questions here and find answers why the masses have left

if you work with people they will work with you
lie to them and they will leave


Tammy
Tammy Jul 12 '16
den i even offered to pay oxwall to fix the biggest problems
and was told no give us money and we will do what we want and make new stuff we want and not fix things
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