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Tammy Jul 12 '16

we even crowd funded more then 3 times the amount of money needed to fix one problem

and was shot down with the same answer

#41

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Senior Developer Jul 12 '16

" and you dont see that as a problem "

I never said that, I said that I'm going to fix it in my website when i have the time to do it. Please don't misunderstand my words. And thank you for all the information that you gave to me.

The Forum post is edited by Senior Developer Jul 12 '16

#42

Tammy Jul 12 '16

Cool

#43

Tammy Jul 12 '16

Den theres something seriously wrong here when oxwall refuses to admit theres huge flaws in the system

Oxwall deletes heaps of posts with fixed code in them

And refuses to even be paid to fix problems

Eather oxwall is full of seriously dum ppl running it

Or the only other thing that could motivate such behavour is money

They must be make money from poor saps that dont know better

#44

Paul Towery Jul 12 '16

I have already shut my site down, moving on to something else until a lot of the issues gets solved here. I have had to start my site over to many times due to failures , load time, plugins not working right, this and that...so i just quit. Losing 300 members at a time is no fun, and i have done that on several occasions , and it's no fun to ask them to come back when all you get is "WHY", so you really can't get your site built with members like that. It would be a Super Great script, if things would work as they are suppose too and if we could get the answers and help needed here. All i have ever seen here is a bunch of bull crap and not much help with anything, or your topic gets moved or deleted, then you can't find what you was wanting to read again. My site got so slow and so many things would happen to it, i just shut it down. I got really tired of the head ache. So until things get better...i will be waiting or working on something else just to pass the time. I'll check in from time to time and see how things are going, everybody have a great day and Peace out to all.

#45

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dave Jul 12 '16

Paul, i am sorry that you had issues, the majority dont. But this has to do with alot of factors. Hosting, plugins, so many things come into play it is not fair to always blame the script. Yes sometimes any open source script is to blame however not always and until there is a test done that is factual and provides needed data then there is really no way to know what the issue really is. Hope you will be back soon..

The Forum post is edited by dave Jul 12 '16

#46

Tammy Jul 12 '16

Dave what majority

You will not be able to find one peron here that has none these and many more huge problems

#47

Tammy Jul 12 '16

Oxwall needs to set up a test for these and the many more huge problems and everyone to work out solutions to them

#48

Tammy Jul 12 '16

For weeks i argued with ross on huge problems with ombeded

Only to get no where

6 months latter some one posted a video on just how easy it was to hack oxwall powered sites through ombeded

People were screaming out for a patch

But the only answer they got was this will be fixed in an upcoming build

That lost heaps of ppl from here i got heaps mesages from ppl stating there over oxwall and for them to think its ok just to leave my site open to hackers i am out of here bye

The Forum post is edited by Tammy Jul 12 '16

#49

JoshWho Jul 12 '16

I can confirm what Tammy Says. I have my Oxwall site running on a dedicated server now just to be able to keep a nice speed for everyone. My Admin all account which has now almost 2000+ members as it's friends still lags on the dashboard page and index page. The problem is the user data is not cached at all. It is lively pulled every time that page is loaded and has to compile it all right at that second and if you have a lot of friends that can take a huge load on your memory and affects the whole site. I have ran many large website and everyone of them to be successful had to cache the user data and with using memcached or other caching engines. Memcached is in my opinion the best method.

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dave Jul 12 '16

Josh, you are saying 2000 members but tammy is saying 100-200 members, huge difference (which is why i did not agree with her). Also memcached is not so easy to implement, especially on shared servers.

Many shared servers dont have it enabled and many hosts wont enable it due to extra load on the server memory. Also its not just memcached you also may need the PECL extension enabled on the server as well.

So although there may be some lag at 2000 members, the site is still usable and it does not create such a lag that prevents user interation and process. As Den eluded to in his reply, as the site grows then the need for some special coding and server techniques also grows. This is true with any open source script on large volume sites. And this is open source so you are welcome to modify it to better perform under any conditions.

I am not saying that there are things that cant be done to improve performance but the team has to consider all users and circumstances when applying options.

The Forum post is edited by dave Jul 12 '16

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Tammy Jul 13 '16

Dave you can have 20000 members as long as no one is friends with ach other

What i am saying is at 50 or 100 or 150 friends the site becomes that slow that the users just leave

So to get 100 friends can be easy achieved from just having 200 members

Some want to be friends with everone so they would have 200 friends

So the site is limited to 200 members

Thats the point that u start lose members that the limit

You can have 2000000 members as long as none of them use the site in any way

The Forum post is edited by Tammy Jul 13 '16

#52

Tammy Jul 13 '16

If your drive a truck full of beer and at 60 kph all is good you then take it up to 70 n beer starts fall off the 60 is your limit

#53

Tammy Jul 13 '16

When you hit the limit every 2 new members you get you lose 2

You may only lose one fully by them delete there profile and the other just does not return

But there both lost members

The Forum post is edited by Tammy Jul 13 '16

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Tammy Jul 13 '16

Josh you have 2000 members but how many of them are active on the site

Buddylist looks to be around 100 active in the last month so you are close or have even reached the limit

For every 2 active members you gain you will lose 2

And you should really look your theme on mobile its horable

The Forum post is edited by Tammy Jul 13 '16

#55

JoshWho Jul 13 '16

I think my site looks prety good on mobile. Not sure what you are talking about.

#56

JoshWho Jul 13 '16

Let me re address "The problem is the user data is not cached at all. It is lively pulled every time that page is loaded and has to compile it all right at that second and if you have a lot of friends that can take a huge load on your memory and affects the whole site."

#57

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dave Jul 13 '16

So Josh could we address this by addressing the friends plugin?

#58

JoshWho Jul 13 '16

Quote from dave So Josh could we address this by addressing the friends plugin?

Possibly. There needs to be something that caches and links all the data. That way when a request is pulled it can just grab it from the cache file instead of having to recompile it. It might take some core tweaks for that to work. You will definitely use more disk space.

The Forum post is edited by JoshWho Jul 13 '16

#59

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dave Jul 13 '16

Ok lets submit that to the developers then and see what they come up with. Let me see what i can do here.

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