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Silvio
Silvio Apr 23 '17
I'm a long time Oxwall user and i was using it on my sites since 2014. Three days ago i removed my last oxwall project and turned on Wp+BP. I'm sorry to see this cms slowing disappear but i understand that managing it needed a lot of investments (time and money).

I'm here just to say thank you to the whole community and support, in particoular i would mention Ross that always was ready to help everyone when needed.

Have a good time guys ;)
Scam Detector
Scam Detector Apr 23 '17

Hi Silvio Can you share your other projects? How many users do you have in you other projects? It would be a pleasure to see your projects. Thanks in advance.

The Forum post is edited by Scam Detector Apr 23 '17
Silvio
Silvio Apr 24 '17
i've realized a new website for swingers from scratch...  wordpress+buddypress. a lot of plugins for personalization and cheap expenses (just for professional theme 22$) and an advanced search (11$).. i will spend something more in the future for the chat part (is the expensive one).

The site is illatooscuro.it and i've always used oxwall in the past but there were a lo of problems like a too much "old style" on mobile (today users are 80% mobile) and impagination was never perfect.

The main reason i moved on another platform is because i could not invest (and i bought themes and plugins here) money in something i do not feel anymore supported. Oxwall misses a decent stastic platform, it's not so much secure against spam and injections, and it is not so much personalizable if you do not code a little. On wordpress you have a plugin for everything, maybe it would be more expensive in a short time, but it's impossilbe that wordpress become not supported, while oxwal is more than 1 year that do not see any update and, also if someone updates the cms, who is still managing all plugins to maintain them updated too?

The develop chain imho is broken ;) the only supported platform is skadate but it's become too much "old" too and not so attractrive for users due his style.


Scam Detector
Scam Detector Apr 24 '17

Thank you for sharing. 


Here is some feedback from me:


Visually it looks good the first page, but it looks like a random news blog site.

It is like you changed a full social website for a blog with little social features.


I expected to see something more beautiful or usable, I have to scroll down to see that I can login or signup, the login form gets visually lost, that's not good.


When I clic on a picture, it sends me out to a blank page with only the picture and I have to click back in the browser to keep browsing, I don't like that. That's so 90's.


In the signup page there is a lot of distractions, there is no need to have a sidebar in the registration page.


With the chat missing I don't see a reason to come back to your website as a registered member.

There is no gallery, and if there is one, I couldn't find it.


Good look with your website, I hope you get more plugins and you can make it more usable and attractive for your visitors.

Silvio
Silvio May 5 '17
Sorry for late delay... i'm still working on it... it will be a directory site where i will put also clubs & Bars.

Check it now ;)
what you mean with click on picture and it sends you on a blank page?
Control-pee
Control-pee May 20 '17
pls how do i remove the signature Oxwall of my site?
Sprintally®
Sprintally® May 21 '17
we are developer and we know that oxwall is the only script which takes very less time to maintain..  check our recent project " https://meeturgent.com/ "  though it is a skadate site we can do similar work for skadate too .. / Never give up water you have , just try to understand the system of the software .  WordPress is not good at all for social or dating site but best for blogger . 
OW-Ghost
OW-Ghost May 21 '17

Quote from AZAHAR { Sprintally Solutions } we are developer and we know that oxwall is the only script which takes very less time to maintain..  check our recent project " https://meeturgent.com/ "  though it is a skadate site we can do similar work for skadate too .. / Never give up water you have , just try to understand the system of the software .  WordPress is not good at all for social or dating site but best for blogger . 
I hate websites that use the big "sign up" window that cover the entire first page and cover the first page image. that is not beautiful design in my eyes but maybe in your eyes.


What FAQ plugin do you use?

The Forum post is edited by OW-Ghost May 21 '17
Igor
Igor Jun 17 '17

Quote from AZAHAR { Sprintally Solutions } we are developer and we know that oxwall is the only script which takes very less time to maintain..
Hi Azahar,
I couldn't login because of the external fb connect, so I couldn't see the website, but - is it built on Oxwall?

Quote from Silvio I'm a long time Oxwall user and i was using it on my sites since 2014. Three days ago i removed my last oxwall project and turned on Wp+BP. I'm sorry to see this cms slowing disappear but i understand that managing it needed a lot of investments (time and money).

Hi Silvio,

It was a little surprising to read your post, although very interesting to hear constructive critics (thanks to admins for keeping the post).

No offense man, but your website doesn't look doesn't look as single solid unit, rather a composed constructor. Please share a screenshot of your previous website on Oxwall for comparison.

So you've got same functions brought together and there is indeed more flexibility possible. What did really change on your new website? Probably the classifieds. Yes, here you surely get more, but we speak then about something very different. I would say website and forum complete each other rather than replace (what seems to happen in your case). You could have classifieds added to any forum, in this case Oxwall is a multipurpose one, but you're comparing apples with pears.

In your case you might have done the right choice, considering allowed budget - WP costs with all plugins will cost surely cheaper than coding a new website, which is fine for short term solutions. You could also make a different decision - keep Oxwall and build your website in WP. Then connect those databases of users to get it together. You would spend some money on this integration, it will cost more than WP plugins, but not millions and then you will get a much higher quality product.

I'm not such a big expert on WP, but if your main concern is long term flexibility, then trust me (and ask other people) - WP is surely not the case to invest money.
WP is normally a template and all your possibilities go around limitations of this template and existing plugins.

Long term investments (and I'm a person who really took a long walk to understand it) are only in coded websites, that were written especially for you and it won't use any plugins, besides of basic social features.

Here you come to think about coding language you want to marry with. There is much choice out there, although not much really if you think twice.
Java-related languages can be quite expensive due to fewer amount of specialists on the market. Imagine your website is built of one of Java languages - most likely you wouldn't be able to use Oxwall and would be forced to search further (or write a new from scratch).
Php gurus are more often to be found and this forum is also php bases - it can be a happy marriage for example.

The whole point with individually written website is that it can be rewritten and changed the way you want - everything there can be changed, so liturally saying - no limitations. You can't say that about WP.
Only small difference - such a website will cost you surely more that 100$, but also such a forum would cost really much to build from scatch. WP is fine for a simple website, landing page etc. When it comes to databases, WP is a deadend I think - no worth to spend on.

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Another good word for Oxwall - it's really the most advanced and complete platform I could find, and I don't think that I missed anything big. It's a very nice product and it's free, what makes it's really adorable. I'm new to Oxwall, but it looks great and I hope the code is really accessible and understandable to work with (I'm going to discover soon). If so it's really a product I would be on long term and there is nothing coming even close to Oxwall. In terms of forums - there is nothing to blame Oxwall, because it's really great (although somewhat limited, I hope it's customizable)

I have some ideas for improvement, which I hope to implement in my installations, but I have just learned that there are not too many people who can really handle Oxwall, when it comes to integration with another website.

Please someone let me know if what I want to do is possible with Oxwall. My goal is to integrate Oxwall into my existing website, which is also php Yii / Ruby based.

Following is required:

-          - allow users navigate between Oxwall and website without re-logging in

-          - each existing user on website should be reflected in Oxwall users list

Hope it is.
Thank you.

The Forum post is edited by Igor Jun 18 '17
OW-Ghost
OW-Ghost Jun 18 '17

Hi Igor,


I will keep you updated about how big server you need for run a oxwall website with 30-40 members online at the same time with plugins that i buy from oxwall store


Right now i have big issues about this and i run my site on a VPS that i was think could handle this but i think i need bee very rich for run a oxwall website on a huge dedicated server for big money if i want my site runs with good speed and not get timeouts all the time when load pages.


Igor if you rich i suggest you go for oxwall if not i suggest not go for oxwall you need a big server to run when you have many members online. i doubt i wordpress website would need same huge server for have 30-40 members online


Anyways i try to solve this with the team and my host to see why i need huge server for run my software if there is wrong with my script or if my server to small and taht i need rich more for run my site with no slow page loading.


Hope i will solve this if not i need either change software totally or upgrade my server to a expensive dedicated server with huge spec


For me this was huge money to spend on a server


https://www.a2hosting.com/vps-hosting/managed i was pick the power+ plan but so far a big mistake i have speed issues and pages that loading very slow when many memebrs are online at the same time


My host blame it on oxwall software but i feel it is my host that have issues ,we will see how this ends i just want my site runs with good speed and not spend huge money on dedicated servers or cloudservers that have little cpu if you not pay alot money


Thank you

The Forum post is edited by OW-Ghost Jun 18 '17
Igor
Igor Jun 18 '17
Hi OW-Ghost,

Since recently I moved to SiteGround basic pack and they count executions/seconds per period. My website is using filters and db and these seconds run out very fast. Even before I got forum running it's already seems to be a problem. Looks like I will need to get the unlimited pack for more money. This is obviously why large websites own servers, bcz at certain point it's cheaper to buy and run them autonomously.

Hosting support also told me that it's something related to queries, so your and my cases seem quite alike. Do you use Oxwall as standalone unit or you got it integrated in your website?
Cheers.
OW-Ghost
OW-Ghost Jun 19 '17
Hi Igor,


I was today leave A2 hosting and they slow apache VPS server that could not handle my website fully and did go for Siteground Cloud servers and i will see now how much memory and cpu my websites need. i just transfer my site today so i will see if i get better speed :)


They use apache/niginx and my other website that run same as you on a shared plan have great speed but like you said it have executions limits so probably when i get more then 1 or 2 members at the same time online i need upgrade to gogeek plan. but now i talk about another website not the one i was transfer today to siteground cloudserver



The Forum post is edited by OW-Ghost Jun 19 '17
Igor
Igor Jun 19 '17
Hi OW-Ghost,

Several websites are running on my hosting, so you won't use all your limits with 3 users. I guess that you will need about 10.000 unique visits with some depth to use the 20K limit.
Attacks on websites often also withdraw many credits.

It's fine to upgrade bcz of many visits, but sometime the code and db references might go in loops using the executions and it's a true waste of resources.