Is it worthwhile moving our site to OWengine and upgrading to PHP7?
How easy is it to do? Will our plugins (lots of them) continue to work, and our theme (Venus Responsive)?
What are people's experiences with changing over?
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John
Jun 22 '18
The Forum post is edited by John Jun 22 '18
Lee
Jun 22 '18
It isn't mandatory to upgrade to php 7 - it's just capable of running php 7+
Its as easy as using ftp file transfer. If you can run the plugins/themes under oxwall, you should be able to run them under owengine.
So far so good, they also have a forum over there where people are posting their experiences.
Ketil Ervik
Jun 22 '18
I have also converted to OWengine and am greatly surprised at how much faster my networks are running now. As a matter of fact, I drive many purchased plugins and have not had any problems with these with OWengine. My theme also works satisfactorily.
All information about upgrading or reinstalling is listed here: https://www.owengine.com/download
My networks:
https://www.ketilsnettverk.org/index
The Forum post is edited by Ketil Ervik Jun 22 '18
Ketil Ervik
Jun 23 '18
The discussion about the logo has moved to
https://www.owengine.com/forum/topic/1822?page=1#post-1995
and is resolved
Thanks Chris for that.
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Leader dave
Aug 15 '18
OK i suppose dead may be a bit overkill, i guess stalled is a better term i should have used. However dead does describe the activity there.
IMO Owengine was started in the event that the oxwall site went dark. Since that has not happened then i think they might have backed off alittle on their development.
John
Sep 7 '18
In reference to the above, I moved across to OWEngine, but given the lack of activity, I ended up moving my site back to "mainstream" Oxwall, and will try Dave's workaround (in another forum topic) for PHP 7.1
OW-Ghost
Sep 7 '18
Skadate is dead to for weeks...i was support them with money and not a word from them in soon 2 weeks from the date that they promise install the new PWA apps on my site.
AppXprt
Sep 7 '18
OW-Ghost
I can do PWA on anything now, piece of cake...
You don't even truly need it as a plugin if you know what you're doing ;-)
Let me know if you want me to take care of it for you!
I now have the worlds first dynamic client caching service worker
Might be the worlds most advanced service worker thus far
The Forum post is edited by AppXprt Sep 7 '18
OW-Ghost
Sep 8 '18
Is it possible use this PWA in Google Playstore and Apple store ?
It would bee a complete package and cover all importen search engines
Oxwall do not have such complete package yet, same as skadate have.
PWA is great the only bad is that you will not covers this 2 stores (search engines)
As a business i want bee visible on all bigger search engines ,i hope you understand.....you have taken a huge step to the mobile world for oxwall...but there is still 2 stores (search engines) that missing for have a complete oxwall business....
sounds maybe i never happy but i want visible everywhere in this world :)
Ow-ghost
The Forum post is edited by OW-Ghost Sep 8 '18
AppXprt
Sep 8 '18
It's not possible to get a PWA in ANY app store, EVER.
Apple probably hates PWA by the way..
What you CAN do is have your PWA point and encourage downloading your app from the store.
You can have your PWA alert your users that there is an app available in the store (if you have one).
The whole point of having and using PWA is so you don't have to have apps in the app stores, but there is absolutely no way to actually get your PWA in ANY app store. You'll need a native or hybrid app for that in every and all cases.
AppXprt
Sep 8 '18
Skadate can't get you in any app store. It's fairly easy to provide PWA functionality, but you need Java, C++, or Cordova to be in app store, not to mention a developer account which is $25 one time for play store or $100 per year for Apple I think.
The Forum post is edited by AppXprt Sep 8 '18
JB TECH
Sep 8 '18
PWA does not go into app stores, apps do (as in native, PWA utilizes the phone's web framework or native browsing activity).
Skadate has mobile apps as part of their plans and do publish you for them, but they're not the best and lack in functionality.
OW-Ghost
Sep 10 '18
Okey so there will never bee any full mobile solution for oxwall to coming....actually owengine was talk they will release new native apps for oxwall this december ...but i think it will never happens
i did not say PWA is working in app store i was just thinking maybe if you have a fully working PWA is maybe more easy develop a hybrid app...that what i was thinking...some advantage from have a fully pwa app working when develop a hybrid app or native app
AppXprt
Sep 14 '18
There are some similarities in developing Hybrid Apps and PWA, for instance both use a manifest and are capable of utilizing service workers for things like web push notifications.
Almost done with PWA Pro, Advanced is complete but wait to release both at same time
AppXprt
Sep 16 '18
OW-Ghost: I'm pretty sure I could provide a plugin that could create a full hybrid app with Cordova eventually.
I'm thinking about it after the PWA stuff is complete.
This would be an Expensive plugin though. We're talking $250 for a cross platform hybrid app ready for all mobile stores.
The Forum post is edited by AppXprt Sep 16 '18
OW-Ghost
Sep 16 '18
Wow...a hybrid app for both IOS and Android would bee a complete solution with the PWA app that backup google search engine.
We are talking step to the future for oxwall software and it would bee amazing boost for oxwall
BUT i affraid oxwall then would offer more then skadate can offer with they payed packages....how would skadate see on this competion they get? I mean i would concider use oxwall and leave skadate if there is a complete mobile app solution at oxwall
One more question is....skadate hybrid and pwa apps have awsome design but oxwall theme design for mobile version is have ugly design...is it possible make the design look better?
The Forum post is edited by OW-Ghost Sep 16 '18
AppXprt
Sep 19 '18
The apps will reflect whichever Mobile Plugin and Theme you have installed in your Owall/Skadate Setup. Hybrid App and PWA don't change or have any affect on the look and feel of the Oxwall Mobile Version in most cases.
You can however make the app change HTML, JS and CSS on the FLY, but it's not always perfect and I don't personally recommend it at all for anything further than placing a custom back button some where on the page or changing small elements.
I have used it for changing the Title Bar from ViXiV to Bandid for a clone app that connects to the same ViXiV Base, but is called Bandid Social instead of ViXiV Social.
Here is what Oxwall Mobile looks like as a Hybrid Android App:
Both of these connect to https://social.vixiv.net, but notice the difference in Title Bar contents and the added Back Button:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vixiv.social
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vixiv.bandid
This one connects to https://dating.vixiv.net:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vixiv.dating
You can make changes on the fly with JS on just about anything in the app. Small things like this are fine, but the proper way to do anything more would be adding it to Oxwall as a plugin / theme.
The Forum post is edited by AppXprt Sep 19 '18
